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Post by Kelly Kapowski on Jul 10, 2002 15:45:37 GMT -5
Funny that when people talk about baseball teams that spend tons of money they always talk about the Yankees. This past offseason, the Mets spent more to bring in free agents, and look where they are. Then there is always the $252 million dollar dork in Texas, another team that is in last place. Also people seem to forget that in 2000 the Devil Rays spent quite a bit of money on their team, and they won like 63 games. I think that it's not that the Yankees spend so much money as much as it is that they spend money on the right people for their team. I really can't think of any people that the Yankees have brought in in the last few years that haven't helped the team. I take that back, Henry Rodriguez never panned out for the Yanks. 1 guy in the last 6 or 7 years is pretty good. All in all, I think you guys need to take a look at why you hate the Yankees, and come up with a better reason than "they spend a ton of money" unless you are also going to add other teams that spend a lot. Now if you want to hate the Yankees because they always win, that's another story. Jose Canseco amd Sterling Hitchcock. People hate the Yankees because of trades like the Mondesi deal and the Weaver deal. They have no need for either of them. They have 6 starting pitchers now, and that's not even counting the abomination that is the afformentioned Hitchcock. A few years back they traded for Canseco and just sat him on the bench cause they had no use for him. It's annoying that the Yankees go out and trade for guys that they don't even need, or vastly overpay for guys like Karsay, while a team like the Expos are trying to swing a deal and the moronic commisioner won't let them because he refuses to let them add payroll, essentially going right out and preventing the 'Spos from contending. The only people that don't hate the Yankees are yankees "fans" |
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Post by TheJedi2 on Jul 10, 2002 16:06:32 GMT -5
You can take that back Anglemark, because I almost stopped rooting for them because of the Mondesi trade. I don't like Mondesi, and I don't think he's that great. It pissed me off that they traded for him. I definitely hated them for doing the deal.
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Post by kamala_fan on Jul 11, 2002 10:22:44 GMT -5
Jose Canseco amd Sterling Hitchcock. I really can't defend either of these guys, esp Canseco. However, the Yankees did need a middle reliever and Hitchcock did fit that bill. Not very well mind you, but still he fit a need. The Yankees do have 6 starting pitchers now, but Pettite has been on the DL most of the first half, Wells is coming off back surgery last season, El Duque has been hurt off and on the first half, and Clemens always seems to have a nagging injury. That isn't quite a reliable starting rotation. Sure, if they are all healthy, then it's a little bit of overkill, but with any of them potentially going on the DL, or now with an extra starter, one of them can just take a start off and rest, it isn't such a bad idea. To touch on Mondesi quickly...Raul, while not playing well this year, still is a player with tons of potential. There is no way anyone can say that Spencer and Van Der Wal were doing a good job in right. The Yanks had a chance to get an outfielder with power and speed, and a great arm to put in right. Why not make the deal? With the pressure of being the 2nd best player on the team gone (like he was in Toronto) Raul should come around and have a solid 2nd half. I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do by calling me a "fan". I have followed the Yankees ever since I was old enough to follow baseball. I was a Yankee fan back in the glory days of Steve Balboni and Mel Hall. Back in the 80's and the early 90's when the Yanks were terrible I was still there, hoping that Kevin Maas really would be the next big star. Now that the Yanks are on top again doesn't mean that every person that likes the team has jumped to the bandwagon. All in all, people that hate the Yankees hate that they spend and win, just like was said by another bloke on here a few posts ago. There is no reason that the majority of teams in baseball could spend money like the Yankees, but they don't. They sit around and say "we can't make money with a terrible team, make the teams that put out a quality roster with the money that they earned share their money because we don't want to risk anything." Fuck revenue sharing that is so shitty. Fuck a salary cap. People say it worked in football, but think about it. There isn't really any one team that is great, and there is really only one team that is good, and it's the Rams. Every other team is mediocre. I would rather see 4 high quality teams playing than a whole league of teams that are barely average. Ok, I think that's enough for now, I'm going back to my Kamala cage. |
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Post by diablo2j on Jul 11, 2002 10:54:02 GMT -5
That's only because your team is one of the 4.
YANKEES ARE AFRAID OF COMPETITION!
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Post by Kelly Kapowski on Jul 11, 2002 16:32:24 GMT -5
I wasn't calling you specifically a "fan" I was referring to the millions of mindless drones in this nation who call themselves Yankee fans. Few things piss me off more than frontrunners.
And you're exactly right on football's economic system, it's nearly as bad as baseball's. I'd prefer one similar to the NBA's, which I think is ideal for MLB cause there's more players so the whole resigning clause won't be as detrimental to the system.
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Post by kamala_fan on Jul 12, 2002 14:29:24 GMT -5
That's only because your team is one of the 4. Um, when I was talking about the 4 teams, that was in reference to the NFL. Baseball has more than 4 good teams. |
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Post by Kelly Kapowski on Apr 20, 2003 16:39:35 GMT -5
I really can't defend either of these guys, esp Canseco. However, the Yankees did need a middle reliever and Hitchcock did fit that bill. Not very well mind you, but still he fit a need. The Yankees do have 6 starting pitchers now, but Pettite has been on the DL most of the first half, Wells is coming off back surgery last season, El Duque has been hurt off and on the first half, and Clemens always seems to have a nagging injury. That isn't quite a reliable starting rotation. Sure, if they are all healthy, then it's a little bit of overkill, but with any of them potentially going on the DL, or now with an extra starter, one of them can just take a start off and rest, it isn't such a bad idea. To touch on Mondesi quickly...Raul, while not playing well this year, still is a player with tons of potential. There is no way anyone can say that Spencer and Van Der Wal were doing a good job in right. The Yanks had a chance to get an outfielder with power and speed, and a great arm to put in right. Why not make the deal? With the pressure of being the 2nd best player on the team gone (like he was in Toronto) Raul should come around and have a solid 2nd half. I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do by calling me a "fan". I have followed the Yankees ever since I was old enough to follow baseball. I was a Yankee fan back in the glory days of Steve Balboni and Mel Hall. Back in the 80's and the early 90's when the Yanks were terrible I was still there, hoping that Kevin Maas really would be the next big star. Now that the Yanks are on top again doesn't mean that every person that likes the team has jumped to the bandwagon. All in all, people that hate the Yankees hate that they spend and win, just like was said by another bloke on here a few posts ago. There is no reason that the majority of teams in baseball could spend money like the Yankees, but they don't. They sit around and say "we can't make money with a terrible team, make the teams that put out a quality roster with the money that they earned share their money because we don't want to risk anything." Fuck revenue sharing that is so shitty. Fuck a salary cap. People say it worked in football, but think about it. There isn't really any one team that is great, and there is really only one team that is good, and it's the Rams. Every other team is mediocre. I would rather see 4 high quality teams playing than a whole league of teams that are barely average. Ok, I think that's enough for now, I'm going back to my Kamala cage. You're entirely discounting that the Yankees are at a clear advantage playing in the biggest market in the country and having their own freakin cable network. The thing that needs to happen is shared network revenue just like the NFL, not a salary cap. Otherwise teams in big cities can afford to launch their own network and the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. |
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Post by RepoManRules on Apr 21, 2003 18:03:19 GMT -5
NBA: Lakers because Shaq and Kobe NEVER pass the ball they only pass ot them. Who's next in scoring, Derek Fisher?
People say Mcgrady is worse. Then why was Drew Gooden averaging 20 ppg when he joined? Why are you hatin on the Knicks?
MLB: Mets. The Mets always suck. I am from New York so I have to be a fan of the Yanks.
NFL: Our Giants. I know they fumbled accidently last year but the Giants usually suck.
MLS: EVERYTHING!
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Post by The Nectar of the Mods on Apr 26, 2003 20:54:28 GMT -5
You're entirely discounting that the Yankees are at a clear advantage playing in the biggest market in the country and having their own freakin cable network. The thing that needs to happen is shared network revenue just like the NFL, not a salary cap. Otherwise teams in big cities can afford to launch their own network and the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It took 10 months to come up with that? |
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Post by Kelly Kapowski on Apr 27, 2003 2:01:31 GMT -5
Well there was a lot of research and such.
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Post by prodo. on May 17, 2003 0:25:04 GMT -5
How much dirt did you get on your shirt digging up that post, AM?  I got some spots here and there... |
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Post by 91 on May 17, 2003 6:17:39 GMT -5
Soccer - France. Why? Because they're all French. Nuff said. That stands to reason, but at least they're not as great as everyone makes out. |
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Post by stephentology on May 20, 2003 10:43:40 GMT -5
I felt the need to join in the team bashing. Hope nobody minds seeing as Aussie Rules isn't very well known outside of Australia.
AFL (Australian Football League) - Adelaide, Brisbane, Collingwood, Essendon, Kangeroos, West Coast.
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