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Post by TBoneSon on Jun 16, 2003 15:11:03 GMT -5
MICHAEL MOORE IS A LIAR!!! David Hardy, Lawyer for the Interior Department: - www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.htmlJohn Fund, “The Wallstreet Journal”: - www.opinionjournal.com/forms/printThis.html?id=110003233Daniel Lyons, “Forbes” magazine: - www.forbes.com/forbes/2002/1209/059.html?_requestid=2372Dave Kopel, “National Review” magazine: - www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel040403.aspMatt Labash, “The Weekly Standard”: - www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/831ojymx.aspVarious Columnists, “spinsanity.org” (Watchdog Group for Political-Rhetoric): - www.spinsanity.org/columns/20021119.html - www.spinsanity.org/columns/20020403.html - www.spinsanity.org/post.html?2002_11_24_archive.html - www.spinsanity.org/post.html?2002_04_07_archive.html#75241524 - www.spinsanity.org/post.html?2002_03_24_archive.html#75037397 - www.spinsanity.org/post.html?2001_09_16_archive.html#5742282 - www.spinsanity.org/post.html?2002_06_23_archive.html#85204379 - www.spinsanity.org/topics/#MichaelMoorePaul Boutin, “Wired” magazine and “Wired.com”: - www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,56524,00.html Internet Movie Database (quotes “Forbes” magazine): - us.imdb.com/Trivia?0310793/// “Forbes” magazine writes (quoted from “Internet Movie Database”): “The scene in which Moore purchases the gun from a bank and emerges saying ‘I put $1,000 in a long-term account, they did the background check, and, within an hour, I walked out with my new Weatherby,’ was staged. It was planned over the course of a month. Bank employees interviewed after the film's release say the waiting period is ten days, not an hour.” In an interview with Lou Dobbs (quoted from “The Wallstreet Journal Online”): “When CNN's Lou Dobbs asked Mr. Moore about his inaccuracies, he shrugged off the question. ’You know, look, this is a book of political humor. So, I mean, I don't respond to that sort of Stewff, you know,’ he said. ‘Glaring inaccuracies?’ Mr. Dobbs said. ‘No, I don't. Why should I? How can there be inaccuracy in comedy?’" /// To register complaints (and please do): - www.revoketheoscar.comWow....this is exactly what I was looking for, thank you very much...
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Post by Jessie Spano on Jun 16, 2003 18:33:55 GMT -5
No prob; I already had it typed up (I hand 'em out at work).
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Post by Some assclown on Jun 16, 2003 20:50:55 GMT -5
Episodes 2 and 3 of Genocyber which has such lovely things as.... -children being cut up by machine gun fire, so graphic you can see bones ripping thru flesh, muscule tearing apart, brains getting shot out, eye balls flying out of skulls, and internal organs oozing out -a man's head is crushed by a cyborg's foot causing bloody to splatter -psychic energy from the Genocyber causes two soldiers to explode complete with bulging eyes and blood gushing -the aircraft carrier in the show becomes controlled by the cyborg and it fuses with the crew to turn the ship into a biomechanical horror -an evil scientist's brain, spine, and organs come out of his mouth and attacks the Genocyber
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Post by TheJedi2 on Jun 16, 2003 22:20:58 GMT -5
Donnie Darko which was on a little bit before RAW.
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Post by Leprechaun on Jun 16, 2003 23:08:01 GMT -5
I finally watched "Star Wars Episode One". It was okay, but I still think "Empire Strikes Back" is the best Star Wars movie.
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Post by Some assclown on Jun 17, 2003 0:40:34 GMT -5
Watching Aliens. All I'll say is that it kicks ass.
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Post by TheJedi2 on Jun 17, 2003 12:46:23 GMT -5
I finally watched "Star Wars Episode One". It was okay, but I still think "Empire Strikes Back" is the best Star Wars movie. Okay? That movie was rather bad. The two best male characters died by the time the movie was over.
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Post by Leprechaun on Jun 17, 2003 13:32:21 GMT -5
Okay? That movie was rather bad. The two best male characters died by the time the movie was over. I try to view each movie from an "it's okay" perspective until something really impresses me or something just sucks. To me, the movie balanced out with the suckitude of Jar Jar and the fights being entertaining. Back on topic, I just saw "You've Got Mail" in Economics. Stop laughing! I hate romantic comedies due to how predictible they are at points and this was no exception.
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Post by Some assclown on Jun 17, 2003 22:04:29 GMT -5
I only like romantic comedies in anime/manga form because they tend to be entertaining and you know......funny.
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Post by Leprechaun on Jun 17, 2003 22:22:40 GMT -5
I just finished The Animatrix. I was confused about The Matrix and this helped me out quite a bit, but some of the stories confused me such as "World Record" and the last one.
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Post by Hollywood Humplik on Jun 18, 2003 3:18:03 GMT -5
Old School, and it was a big letdown. After seeing Todd Phillips first picture Road Trip, I thought it was the best college movie since Animal House. I expected this to be better since Will Ferrell and Vince Vaughn where in it, but I was wrong, although the gun tranquilizer scene is one of the funniest scenes I have saw in a movie in a long time
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Post by shioricoybito on Jun 18, 2003 4:33:00 GMT -5
Imbord, surely ALL documentaries are, in some ways, lies and/or staged (see, for example, the Michael Jackson fiascos).
Last film I saw was The Fast And The Furious, I thought it was one of the dullest action movies I've seen since Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
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Post by Jessie Spano on Jun 18, 2003 8:26:57 GMT -5
Imbord, surely ALL documentaries are, in some ways, lies and/or staged (see, for example, the Michael Jackson fiascos). True, all documentaries are biased or slanted in some way, but there's a difference between being slanted, and lying. For instance, Moore links the NRA's roots to the KKK, and even depicts a little cartoon NRA-guy lighting a cross. The truth is, the NRA was founded by GAR (Grand Army of the Republic) veterans; veterans that fought to free the slaves. Another instance: Moore implies that the 6 year-old boy that shot and killed Kayla Rolland was a sweet, sympathetic figure that never got to spend time with his mother, due to her working-hours. The truth is, the boy was the class bully; he repeatedly attacked other Stewdents with (amongst other things) pencils, and talked of “hating everybody”. The boy was sent (by his mother) to live with his uncle, a known drug-dealer, in a house that has been described as “the town crack-house”. Not only were guns and drugs just lying around the house, but the very gun that the boy used was a stolen-weapon, given to the uncle in exchange for drugs. Moore never mentions ANY of this, however. One more: Moore always likes to tell the tale of how the US gave $245 Million in aid to the Taliban over the last few years; that $245 Million was actually given to the UN and other non-government agencies to help aid famine in Afghanistan. Also, many, many people (David Hardy, people from the "Wallstreet Journal", "Forbes", the "Times-Herald Record", "National Review", the "Spinsanity" Organization", etc.) have researched the subject, and have found that almost all of the numbers and statistics that Moore quotes are simply made-up; hence the reason Moore never cites sources or gives dates for the data. Yes, all documentaries are biased; however, there's a difference between supporting your argument with facts, and supporting them with lies.
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Post by Leprechaun on Jun 18, 2003 13:33:24 GMT -5
I watched "The Parent Trap" (1997?) in economics. Why did my teacher have to stop "Billy Madison" to play this movie? I know "Billy Madison" is overplayed, but at least it was more entertaining than this movie.
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Post by shioricoybito on Jun 19, 2003 9:35:01 GMT -5
Various Stewff: Out of interest, Lep, how come you watch so many unusual movies in ECONOMICS, of all things? I mean, I did film Stewdies for a coupla years, so I watched all sorts of movies in class, but economics seems an unusual subject to be shown The Parent Trap in. And Stew, "Stewpid White Men" has 10-15 pages which reference sources and the likes. Now, I've never taken the time to research whether those articles were real or not, but since they're quoted from real newspapers and journalists, I doubt he'd risk a lawsuit (Edit: Although I have just read one of the articles listed in your link section: still, that's, what, 10 sources out of a few hundred?). On the other hand, I've never seen the movie(s?), which may well be full of bullshit. I watched Bowling for Columbine last night and I'm still not sure what to make of it. If I had just sat down and watched it cold, I would have seen it as an interesting documentary but right there on the DVD cover it says "Screamingly Funny" New York Post... while this documentary held my interest for 2 hours, it didn't raise one smile from me. I hate it when people do that- bullshit advertising. "The Royal Tenenbaums" is advertised as a "hilarious comedy" on the box, even though it's really more of a blackly comic drama. Most of the things covered in that film wouldn't make it into, say, a Farrelly Brothers movie.
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